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Imagination vs Consciousness? Filling up the blanks on The New Afterthought Podcast





The conscious mind is a self narrative stream of thoughts, awareness, feelings and observations that includes the image of self as if the mind perceive itself first before perceiving all others.
I.e. walking through my mind would be different compared to taking a walk in your mind,
despite being a thought conception that can be self taught or actualise, these models of self are too a narrative that then narrates your experiences and waking life, creating an irony and an illusion of the self possessing self thoughts.

Your thinking enables a narration to make approximations of your feelings, and observe what is happening onto and inside of you, creating awareness from the illusion of being able to think or to observe. 

Today we explore two concepts that seem to collude together, Imagination and consciousness.
Consciousness is often what seems to paint us differently from monkeys who differ only a slight percentage in genetics, of about 4 percent. And yet, this 4 percent enable us to "take control", creating zoos, measurements of "justified freedom" for this creatures and defining their on natural laws of space and habitat.

What we then observe is this: A superiority in creation allows us to create boundaries and space. I.e culture, society, country and economy. These concepts that were first unimaginable were taught and sought out by mankind to be one of the most prominent living "spaces" within all of us.

Hence we do not just live in a believable physical realm, but we conceive an inner justification based on our roles, conceptualised perplexes that are only thought out, such as our self-schemes of society, culture, economy, and country that not just revolved around these broad concepts but like in any episode of the new afterthought, we have heightened awareness how one shifts our mindset of another.

I.e. my thoughts are not the exact same as any other,
my feelings are not felt the exact same as any other, that I then perceive these commonalities, of educations, facts and spirituality to create this so called "shared experience" on a conceived  "shared consciousness" that is then based on my own "consciousness"

Despite so, this stream of consciousness or rather can almost be juxtaposed with a stream of imagination, for languages continue to evolve ad revolve and the differences in society and past and the present and the future would beget less of its right and wrong of today, than of its own time, that proves its factuality more of a concept than of a permanence, or these information conceived and perceived continue to change and evolve with us.

I.e. we lived in a natural world, but we only come to observe when we learn to find comfort, shelter defence, being in a slightly unnatural state to observe the natural world, such as tigers and more dangerous situations. This unnatural state conceived then becomes natural to us.

So what is consciousness if not just a belief of our own imagination.

The capacity to act as if outside of ourselves , i.e. using our body, which lies outside of our minds, or to enter into ourselves, i.e. to identify with the body more than the mind, that we conceive a retreating into ourselves as the concept of ourselves compared to being localised within such as the mind or the heart or the spirit, attitude, or the make it obvious, more than just our intuition.

If so, we can identify inside, on, and outside of our body, that can bring about a theory, that despite one localised "point of view" we can observe more than one side of the story,
i.e. being able to see more than of one perspective, or to dramatise, more of one man, to be able to bring ourselves into existence by observing ourselves in more than one way.

The differences that one can perceive with imagination and consciousness can be inferred through the following

  1. Unlike pure imagination, consciousness relies the narrative of a story, than of abrupt happenings.
  2. Also, it have many concepts that wraps around it, such as logic, feelings, and other perceived importance that defines mankind who then defines his consciousness.
  3. Imagination despite its capacity to be extraordinary, might need to follow a sequence to be coherent, i.e. make a pattern, or to fill up the blanks and make meaning of what is happening in the story, which can be related to consciousness.
Hence, I would love to probe you on this concept:


  1. Perceptions on consciousness: That we do, think, and feel only to draw up the blanks to make meaning of, and that shared consciousness is the capacity to interpret, i.e. to think from another's perspective such as stepping out of your body, by using your body, i.e. to interact, that can be too viewed in the same perception as self perception i.e. as explained earlier,
  2. Perceptions on shared consciousness: And that one can observe outside his mind by being outside his mind, such as using his body, tools of extension that one relates to oneselves, and in his interactions, extends himself onto another, perhaps just as if, only to create more theories of mind to create a shared objectivity, factual realisation and shared consciousness.
  3. That the illusion of objectivity is the illusion of subjectivity, that colluding to conclude that there is subjectivity is too to conclude the illusion of objectivity or at least, hint its possibilities that man had been operating on as if a fact.
  4. That imagination and consciousness lies on the differences on the blanks painted, i.e. unexplored possibilities versus what is of permanence to man and the make up of man



Do you think otherwise, and if so, is it based on factual happenings, or science that had been continuously been redefined as if to justify our means of living?

On a side note, let's consider AI:

For a tool can be a stick, or a metal hammer, and the approximation of usefulness depends on man's definition of what's good.
If so, if we compare the ape to the human and human to super intelligence AI, would its desire, and learning of our perceptions be its own ideals or to contort and be held against?

I.e. To believe in an overpopulation of "natural" monkeys, with natural habitat of "less" progression, be more useful to man? and is the eradication and decline of monkeys justified?

As much as this might be a bad parallel to pull from,
most of us think of ourselves to be superior to monkeys, and cannot comprehend going back to the days based on animalistic instincts only to eat, hunt and hide.
Do we identify with our "ancestors" or animal evolution, or do we identify with ourselves, if so, does this means natural progression to super AI, and in decoding the information fed and progression believed in, determines the sources of information pulled on and emphasised to push forward on our ideals of a living society?

What means of conscious decision and conscious living of having an experience can then be redefined to make new decisions based on super AI, i.e. making the unconscious conscious and readily available, and making other concepts irrelevant, when the AI within can run loops of selves and self as if others and different selves to conceptualise new and even perhaps better new and future beginnings?

What would the distillation of thought and exchange of information be like?

Share your answer with me, over here or on twitter at elfthereal.




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